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Breastfeeding is 'creepy'

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An article describing breastfeeding as "creepy", written by the deputy editor of a leading parenting magazine, has caused widespread outrage on the internet and prompted protests to the Press Complaints Commission.

Under the headline "I formula fed. So what?", Kathryn Blundell says in this month's Mother & Baby that she bottlefed her child from birth because "I wanted my body back. (And some wine)… I also wanted to give my boobs at least a chance to stay on my chest rather than dangling around my stomach."

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She goes on to say: "They're part of my sexuality, too – not just breasts, but fun bags. And when you have that attitude (and I admit I made no attempt to change it), seeing your teeny, tiny, innocent baby latching on where only a lover has been before feels, well, a little creepy."

She concedes that "there are all the studies that show [breastfeeding] reduces the risk of breast cancer for you, and stomach upsets and allergies for your baby. But even the convenience and supposed health benefits of breast milk couldn't induce me to stick my nipple in a bawling baby's mouth."

  • 7 votes
#1 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:11 PM EDT
kaviaq

Eeewww. Perhaps motherhood was NOT the right move for this woman. If you are that worried about your figure, don't have kids!

  • 20 votes
#1.1 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:53 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Or adopt.

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
Megidoloan

Or she could use a pump if she doesn't want the kid on her boob.

  • 12 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:26 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Or hire a wet nurse.

  • 8 votes
#1.4 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:49 PM EDT
tangojones

Perhaps motherhood was NOT the right move for this woman.

Exactly what I was thinking. Who knows, sometimes these metroids have kids because they think it's trendy. She sounds like a selfish woman - not a good character trait for a mother. You need to be selfless when you're a parent. We've made every necessary sacrifice for our 4 boys. We're broke and exhausted...and we love it (sorta). All of our kids were breastfed till they were almost a year old - mostly by my wife.

  • 14 votes
#1.5 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Good parents

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:29 AM EDT
kaviaq

All of our kids were breastfed till they were almost a year old - mostly by my wife.

Mostly???? Gee I hope you are referring to you bottle-feeding breast milk and not actually producing it yourself!! *giggle*

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT
tangojones

lol...I was wondering if anyone would notice that little bit of humor. Yes, my wife did in fact do all the breast feeding. (She also pumped, so as you pointed out, I occasionally fed them breast milk that we kept stored in the freezer)

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT
tangojones

Thanks, Red. For some reason, that's the most important priority in my life

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:52 PM EDT
drbacon

Gee I hope you are referring to you bottle-feeding breast milk and not actually producing it yourself!!

Men producing breast milk has been medically documented.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:59 AM EDT
tangojones

Now that's creepy

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:59 AM EDT
Justme-517872

Okay yeah that does qualify as creepy.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT
Auteur 1536

Breastfeeding is not creepy. The people who call breastfeeding "creepy" are the ones who are creepy.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:25 PM EDT
drbacon

Auteur. Do you breast feed?

I use to breast feed all the time. But my mother made me stop when I started getting teeth.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Shannoscubie

drbacon, my first child started getting teeth at 3mos. We quickly came to an understanding about THAT. ;-)

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT
G. H.

My middle son got three teeth by three months old! Yikes! Removing him from the breast when he bit, got the message across very quickly. He only bit twice. LOL:-)

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:53 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

Yup. Figured if he had time to mess around with biting, he wasn't very hungry. ;-)

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:56 PM EDT
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redshadowwithgreenbackground

On this each woman must decide for herself.

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:14 PM EDT
MoCowgirl-1193719

I agree.

I remember reading about "wet nurses" in historical fiction novels. I guess there have always been women who would not (some could not) breast feed their own offspring and relied on someone (or something) else to sustain the child that they had given birth to.

I really do not understand the aversion to breastfeeding, but I have encountered many people who consider it a perversion of some sort instead of the normal, and natural way to feed a baby.

  • 13 votes
#2.1 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

It is not creepy. It is a natural function. I am a little uncomfortable seeing it in public.

  • 6 votes
#2.2 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

I am a little uncomfortable seeing it in public.

Most women, like myself, don't sling 'em out for the general public to view. I always made sure to be discreet and so do/have all the other women I know.

  • 7 votes
#2.3 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
Lkessler

I agree--most women out there who breastfeed do not just "pop a boob" for the kid! They're very discreet and they cover not only the breast, but the child's head.

I swear, there are times when I think natural functions are completely railroaded just for the comfort of the few.

  • 12 votes
#2.4 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

I have only twice seen a woman breastfeeding in public where much of the breast could be seen.

  • 6 votes
#2.5 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:20 PM EDT
kaviaq

Doesn't bother me if they "pop out a boob", I'm always trying to get a peek the cute baby, not the breast it is feeding from.

I remember reading about "wet nurses" in historical fiction novels. I guess there have always been women who would not (some could not) breast feed their own offspring and relied on someone (or something) else to sustain the child that they had given birth to.

Generally this was Noble women and the reason was not only because it was thought to be "unseemly" for one of her station, but also because it prevents her from getting pregnant again. Noble women needed to produce heirs and were expected to produce as many as possible.

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Good points.

  • 8 votes
#2.7 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:46 PM EDT
drbacon

redshadowwithgreenbackground

On this each woman must decide for herself

This is one issue where I can easely support the "womans right to choose"

  • 3 votes
#2.8 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:04 AM EDT
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Decurion_505

Seems Ms. Blundell has some issues. Uptight comes to mind, as does selfish.

  • 13 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:39 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Both seem to fit.

  • 10 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:46 PM EDT
Megidoloan

I'll admit that I've always seen breastfeeding as creepy. I'm aware that it's the best nutrition for a baby and would absolutely recommend it if the woman is physically able to breastfeed, but the idea of a baby sucking on my boobs squicks me out something fierce. My boobs are, in the words of the author, "fun bags" to make my clothes look good. That's all they are. Bags of fat.

Of course, none of this really matters for me because I'm childfree and won't be having kids, and even if I did have kids, I'd be unable to breastfeed due to previous breast surgeries. But I can understand why some women would see it as creepy, especially if they have a history of sexual abuse.

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:24 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

God story. Thanks for sharing.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:50 PM EDT
kaviaq

I'm child-free as well, but it is the "carrying of the fetus" and "giving birth parts" that creep me out. If I did have a child and didn't want to breastfeed directly, I'd at least try to use a pump. Then the baby would get the proper nutrition and I wouldn't have to worry about any creepy feelings.

  • 5 votes
#5.2 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:18 PM EDT
Megidoloan

Kaviaq, those parts freak me out, too. Anything regarding pregnancy just disturbs me. I'm pretty lucky that I've never wanted kids.

But yeah, if I had kids and was able to produce milk, I'd use a pump, too. That wouldn't bother me.

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:09 PM EDT
kaviaq

Lots of working women pump while they are at work also. I work in an field dominated by women and there is a whole-lot of pumping going on!

If I had changed my mind about kids I'd rather have adopted anyway. Not only because the birth thing is disturbing, but because I'd want to meet the kid first. It is a total crap shoot to have your own. What if you don't like it?? No one likes my brother.....NO ONE. I'd rather get an older kid I could meet first and make sure we'd be compatible.

  • 5 votes
#5.4 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:14 PM EDT
weRdoomed

It's funny that the women who don't want any kids at all are more selfless and reasonable than the woman who wrote the article! =)

  • 7 votes
#5.5 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:46 PM EDT
drbacon

I'll admit that I've always seen breastfeeding as creepy.

Nothing creepy about it. It's the most natural thing in the world.

  • 5 votes
#5.6 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:05 AM EDT
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Justme-517872

My doc raised the question of breast-feeding at my very first appointment and told me to read up on it and think about it. My first reaction was "Hell No!!". A few months later, after much reading, I was still thinking "ewwww" but was starting to think I was being rather selfish. By the time she was ready to come out I had decided I'd give it my best shot (I'd read the horror stories too). By the time we left the recovery room (c-section baby) she was chomping away like an old pro. The first few days were rather sore then after that our only problem was that I never did produce enough and we had to supplement.

I still miss those middle of the night feedings. I didn't have to fool with a bottle, just go in, settle in the rocking chair and relax. While the rest of the world was sleeping she and I would snuggle up and bond. She would gaze up at me with those big blues until she drifted off to sleep. I'd hold her a bit longer, then off to bed for us both.

It didn't go exactly as planned but I'm really glad we got in what we did. The health benefits and the bonding were worth it. And my boobs are actually smaller now than pre-pregnancy so the author's one reason given is a tad ignorant. If she didn't breastfeed for physical reasons I could sympathize but the reasons she gives are so ignorant and selfish, I can only feel sorry for her child.

  • 9 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT
kaviaq

Nice post. It's great that you gave it a try even though you weren't thrilled by the idea! Even if you couldn't produce enough I'm sure what you gave was very important to her immune system development.

  • 8 votes
#6.1 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT
menmy2

With both of my kids, I only breast fed for a couple of weeks. It just wasn't working out.

  • 5 votes
#6.2 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT
tangojones

Even if women don't plan on breast feeding long term, it's important that they at least try for the first few weeks so that the newborn receives the very important colostrum.

  • 9 votes
#6.3 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT
Justme-517872

Thanks Kaviaq. :) We did last two months at it so I know she did get the needed benefits. I don't know about others' experiences but I know in my case if the breastfeeding specialists had been more focused on me and my baby iso spouting text from their manuals it would have helped. It took me a bit to figure out the opposite of what they were telling me was what worked for my little one. By then I think our window of opportunity for more long-term success was gone.

At any rate, I don't think it's exactly "wrong" or unusual to not be immediately excited about the idea of breastfeeding. The horror stories alone are enough to have you locking the twins up behind steel plates. But I think in at least some cases, if you can suck it up and give it a chance there are great health benefits for you and the baby, plus it's something that you and your baby have shared that is exclusive to only you and your little one.

  • 5 votes
#6.4 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
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sunnybunny1269

I personally think NOT breastfeeding is a little creepy - but that isn't really the best word. What if your dog didn't nurse her puppies? You'd know something was wrong either with the dog or the puppies. Of course if there is something wrong, thank God we have the common sense to have a good substitute (formula & bottles) but the idea that that would be considered the norm is completely bizzarre.

  • 6 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:52 AM EDT
Javabean88

The only time breastfeeding is creepy to me is when it is a child old enough to ask for some milk with his cookies. That is when a child is too old in my book. I actually knew someone who still let their 4 year old nurse. I breastfed my kids until a year old, though all of them I mainly used a pump since I was busy. But breastfeeding versus bottle feeding is a personal choice to each woman. Even if a woman chooses formula, it may not be the number one in terms of health benefits, but it is not awful for the kid either.

  • 7 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

The only time breastfeeding is creepy to me is when it is a child old enough to ask for some milk with his cookies.

Yeah, I'm afraid I'm with you on that. I was outside a diner once waiting to get in and saw a kid of about three scamper up onto his mother's lap and stick his head under her shirt.

  • 7 votes
#8.1 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT
kaviaq

LOL. My great-aunt had to be told that her child was too old to nurse. The child would actually walk over with a wash-cloth, unfasten Mom's bra and clean the breast before feeding!!

  • 7 votes
#8.2 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:59 PM EDT
drbacon

My wife, for some reason, let our daughter nurse longer than she needed to. One day when I saw her climb up on her mothers lap and begin stripping her shirt off and pushing her bra up I told her that I thought it was about time to shut things down. Which she did. (probably around 3)

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:09 AM EDT
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nearing

seeing your teeny, tiny, innocent baby latching on where only a lover has been before feels, well, a little creepy."

She must not realize that her baby came out of a place only her lover had been before.

She sounds VERY immature. Too immature to be a mother.

  • 15 votes
Reply#9 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:12 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

I've been flip-flopping on this in my head for a few days and have to say I find myself agreeing with you here. Hopefully, her baby's father, if he feels the same "creepy" factor, didn't watch his child's birth. ;-)

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:59 PM EDT
drbacon

Although there is nothing wrong with the husband "latching on" where the baby will, when it comes, he must be willing to accept the fact that it was put there first for the baby and for the mans enjoyment second. Nothing creepy about it but then I watched the birth of all my children except one. (The first time I was too nervous and the doctor wouldn't let me in) I even delivered one of them myself when the mid wife was late. What a wonderful experience that was.

  • 4 votes
#9.2 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:17 AM EDT
Shannoscubie

and for the mans enjoyment second

Ahem. I'd say THIRD. I'm sure I get WAY more out of it than he does. ;-)

  • 4 votes
#9.3 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:03 AM EDT
drbacon

Hmmmmm. I don't know. How about we call it a toss up.

    #9.4 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 11:16 PM EDT
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    G. H.

    Good Lord!! How does this woman (?) think our species has survived for THOUSANDS of years (and likely much longer!)??? You couldn't jump up and run to store for formula and bottles! She sounds ignorant and very conceited to me, definitely not good mom material! I was disgusted to see that. I had 4 children, and I breast fed all of them until they "weaned" themselves. Somewhere around 18 to 24 months old. I was even the neighborhood "wet nurse" for when people I knew, who were breastfeeding their baby, wanted a break or a night out. That is what breasts are made for, REALLY, the rest of it is just frosting (so to speak). :-)

    • 9 votes
    Reply#10 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:20 AM EDT
    nearing

    That is what breasts are made for, REALLY, the rest of it is just frosting (so to speak). :-)

    Exactly!

    • 6 votes
    #10.1 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
    Auteur 1536

    That is what breasts are made for

    Not to mention it's also more economically efficient to breastfeed than it is to go out and buy formula.

    • 6 votes
    #10.2 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:05 PM EDT
    drbacon

    And did anyone mention healthier?

    This whole problem of breast feeding, and especially breast feeding in public, stems from the idea that there is something nasty or evil about seeing a woman's breast or a woman being concerned about drooping, sagging breasts that may not be as attractive. Most every time I see a mother nursing she is very discreet about it with blanket securely place over breast and baby with just enough opening for the baby to get plenty of air. Nothing wrong with that at all.

    • 5 votes
    #10.3 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:56 AM EDT
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    Tex-988483

    Breast feeding is creepy only is men try to do it.........

    • 3 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:19 PM EDT
    DarthVSchw

    I would have loved to not spend 50-100 dollars a week on formula, but the girls were just too old to do the job... or just refused, I don't know.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:24 PM EDT
    drbacon

    Unfortunately sometimes that happens. But 100 dollars a week? Yikes.

    • 3 votes
    #12.1 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:22 AM EDT
    DarthVSchw

    I think I meant 50, she's three I totally spaced how much it cost.... but she was eating nearly two cans a week, until I got the doc's permission to start feeding her cereal...

    • 2 votes
    #12.2 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:54 PM EDT
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